Extended Gauntlet

[alamoth]

I felt like we should have a gauntlet thread that we could use as a metric for testing our rogue decks. The gauntlet should have about 10 decks in it and include Aggro, Control, Combo, and mixes of those archetypes. This is our gauntlet:

Boros Deck Wins with Green (Frank Karsten, Deck-o-Pedia)
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Windswept Heath
2 Flooded Strand
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
4 Sacred Foundry
1 Barbarian Ring
2 Battlefield Forge
1 Plains
1 Mountain

4 Kird Ape
4 Grim Lavamancer
4 Savannah Lions
2 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4 Soltari Priest
4 Silver Knight
4 Firebolt
4 Sudden Shock
4 Lightning Helix
4 Molten Rain

SB:
4 Pyrostatic Pillar
4 Ancient Grudge
4 Umezawa's Jitte
3 Armadillo Cloak

Aggro Loam (Emilio Lopez Campos, 2006 Worlds)
2 Mountain
3 Forest
2 Bloodstained Mire
3 Stomping Ground
4 Wooded Foothills
1 Blood Crypt
1 Overgrown Tomb
4 Tranquil Thicket
4 Forgotten Cave

4 Birds of Paradise
4 Terravore
4 Vineleasher Kudzu
4 Wall of Roots
4 Burning Wish
3 Life from the Loam
2 Putrefy
3 Devastating Dreams
4 Seismic Assault
4 Cabal Therapy

SB:
4 Ravenous Baloth
2 Duress
3 Pithing Needle
1 Chainer's Edict
1 Shattering Spree
1 Nostalgic Dreams
1 Life from the Loam
1 Hull Breach
1 Devastating Dreams

Ichorid (Ryo Ogura, 2006 Worlds)
4 Polluted Delta
3 Watery Grave
3 Cephalid Coliseum
2 Flooded Strand
1 Bloodstained mire
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Breeding Pool
1 Riftstone Portal
1 Island
1 Swamp

4 Putrid Imp
2 Wild Mongerl
4 Psychatog
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Ichorid
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
2 Wonder
1 Golgari Thug
4 Chrome Mox
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Zombie Infestation
3 Deep Analysis
1 Tolarian Winds
1 Careful Study

SB:
3 Firemane Angel
4 Pithing Needle
2 Moment's Peace
2 Coffin Purge
1 Ray of Revelation
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Filth
1 Darkblast

U/W UrzaTron (Frank Karsten, Deck-o-Pedia)
2 Adarkar Wastes
1 Ancient Den
1 Island
2 Plains
1 Seat of the Synod
4 Urza's Mine
4 Urza's Power Plant
4 Urza's Tower
4 Hallowed Fountain

2 Condescend
3 Decree of Justice
1 Eternal Dragon
3 Exalted Angel
3 Fact or Fiction
3 Memory Lapse
3 Mindslaver
3 Remand
3 Repeal
1 Sundering Titan
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Wrath of God
4 Azorious Signet

SB:
4 Meddling Mage
2 Sphere of Law
2 Teferi's Response
2 Tormod's Crypt
3 Condemn
2 Trickbind

Scepter-Chant (Roel van Heeswijk, 2006 Worlds)
1 Academy Ruins
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
3 Adarkar Wastes
3 Seat of the Synod
2 Steam Vents
2 Hallowed Fountain
2 Island
2 Plains
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Shivan Reef
1 Ancient Den
4 Flooded Strand

1 Exalted Angel
3 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
4 Spell Snare
2 Force Spike
4 Isochron Scpeter
4 Fire//Ice
3 Orim's Chant
4 Counterspell
3 Cunning Wish
4 Thirst for Knowledge
2 Fact or Fiction
3 Chrome Mox

SB:
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Orim's Chant
1 Muddle the Mixture
1 Condemn
1 Disenchant
1 Lightning Helix
1 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
3 Gigadrowse
1 Stifle
2 Wrath of God
1 Pulse of the Fields
1 Echoing Truth

Desire/TEPS (Raphael Levy, 2006 Worlds)
4 Sulfur Vent
3 Gemstone Mine
4 Geothermal Crevice
4 Tinder Farm

2 Channel the Suns
4 Rite of Flame
4 Darkwater Egg
4 Seething Song
4 Cabal Ritual
2 Infernal Tutor
2 Duress
4 Burning Wish
3 Mind's Desire
3 Sins of the Past
1 Tendrils of Agony
4 Lotus Bloom
4 Chrome Mox
4 Chromatic Star

SB:
3 Empty the Warrens
1 Mind's Desire
1 Hull Breach
1 Sins of the Past
2 Tendrils of Agony
1 Channel the Suns
2 Duress
4 Orim's Chant

Tooth & Nail (Simon Gortzen, Paris PTQ)
1 Windswept Heath
1 Temple Garden
1 Plains
4 Urza's Tower
4 Urza's Mine
4 Urza's Power Plant
6 Snow-Covered Forest

4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
4 Wall of Roots
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1 Phantom Nishoba
1 Sky Hussar
2 Sundering Titan
3 Eternal Witness
4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Chrome Mox
4 Sylvan Scrying
4 Tooth and Nail
2 Reap and Sow
1 Mindslaver
3 Engineered Explosives
1 Krosan Grip

SB:
3 Krosan Grip
3 Orim's Chant
1 Kataki, War's Wage
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Mindslaver
2 Reap and Sow
4 Loxodon Hierarch

Flow Rock (Frank Karsten Deck-o-Pedia)
4 Bloodstained Mire
7 Forest
2 Mountain
1 Overgrown Tomb
5 Swamp
4 Wooded Foothills

4 Birds of Paradise
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Chainer's Edict
3 Destructive Flow
4 Eternal Witness
1 Genesis
1 Haunting Echoes
4 Pernicious Deed
3 Putrefy
3 Ravenous Baloth
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
4 Sensei's Divining Top

SB:
2 Artifact Mutation
2 Cranial Extraction
3 Dark Confidant
1 Destructive Flow
4 Leyline of the Void
1 Ravenous Baloth
2 Smother

Gifts Rock (Frank Karsten, Deck-o-Pedia)
3 Forest
1 Godless Shrine
2 Golgari Rot Farm
1 Island
3 Overgrown Tomb
1 Plains
2 Polluted Delta
1 Swamp
1 Temple Garden
1 Watery Grave
4 Windswept Heath
1 Breeding Pool
1 Hallowed Fountain

4 Birds of Paradise
4 Cabal Therapy
1 Duress
1 Engineered Explosives
3 Eternal Witness
1 Genesis
4 Gifts Ungiven
1 Global Ruin
3 Living Wish
3 Loxodon Hierarch
3 Pernicious Deed
1 Plow Under
2 Putrefy
1 Ravenous Baloth
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Smother
1 Vindicate

SB:
1 Cranial Extraction
2 Duress
1 Engineered Plague
1 Eternal Witness
1 Golgari Rot Farm
1 Kataki, War's Wage
1 Loxodon Hierarch
1 Meloku, the Clouded Mirror
1 Plow Under
2 Tormod's Crypt
1 Withered Wretch
1 Harmonic Sliver
1 Krosan Grip

Dirty Kitty (Billy Moreno, 2006 Worlds)
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Stomping Ground
1 Blood Crypt
6 Mountain

4 Skirk Prospector
4 Goblin Piledriver
4 Goblin Warchief
4 Goblin Matron
1 Goblin Sharpshooter
1 Goblin Sledder
4 Mogg War Marshal
4 Seething Song
4 Rite of Flame
2 Brightstone Ritual
4 Empty the Warrens
4 Fecundity
1 Grapeshot

SB:
4 Clickslither
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Pyroclasm
2 Krosan Grip
2 Ancient Grudge
1 Goblin King

Affinity (Frank Karsten, Deck-o-Pedia)
1 Glimmervoid
3 Blinkmoth Nexus
4 Great Furnace
4 Vault of Whispers
4 Seat of the Synod
4 Darksteel Citadel

4 Arcbound Ravager
4 Chromatic Star
4 Arcbound Worker
4 Thoughtcast
4 Cranial Plating
4 Myr Enforcer
4 Frogmite
3 Ornithopter
3 Pyrite Spellbomb
2 Chromatic Sphere
2 Atog
2 Shrapnel Blast

SB:
3 Tormod's Crypt
3 Pithing Needle
3 Cabal Therapy
3 Darkblast
3 Stifle


Play 20 games vs. each deck.
5 Games on the play, pre-sideboard
5 Games on the draw, pre-sideboard
5 Games on the play, post-sideboard
5 Games on the draw, post-sideboard

The results from this should be an excellent barometer for how well any of our rogue decks will do at a PTQ or Grand Prix level event. It will also greatly help with tuning and tweaking.

[conelead]

I don't like Flow-rock instead of GiftsRock. GiftsRock is the stronger deck. It is also much harder to play, but it IS a much better deck. FlowRock is a metagame deck. GiftsRock is like T2 Fader. It is 50% against just about every deck, as it has the tools to beat everything, but will generally not crush anything. It is the deck that asks the most of the player. Good players will be highly successful with GiftsRock. Also, I think SunnySideUp is more a cute deck than a real threat for combo. If you want a second combo deck, look at Heartbeat. It's a deck that has flown under the radar, but is still really really powerful. I have a feeling it won't be flying under for very long though.

[Space_Stormy]

Flow Rock and Gifts Rock are so different that I think that they should both be on the list.

But yeah, Flow Rock is not that unstoppable. I won a game where he played Destructive Flow turn 3 and after sacrificing my second land to it and getting my lotus Putrefied, I still won.

[alamoth]

Excellent points. I've updated the list by switching Omlette aux Lotus out for Heartbeat (which I played against a couple weeks ago and it is a vicious deck) and I put Gifts Rock on the list. I'll try to get generic decklists up, probably pull them from the Deck-o-pedia, sometime tomorrow.

[seeker]

Having no Flow presence would definitely be a mistake, if we end up cutting Rock we should add the Confidant Aggro build IMO.

[alamoth]

After looking over Osyp's gauntlet today on SCG and our own comments I came up with this:

BDW(with Green)
Aggro Loam
Friggorid
UW Tron
Scepter-Chant
Desire-TEPS
Heartbeat
Flow Rock
Gifts Rock
Dirty Kitty

I put up a couple decklists. The rest will be up shortly.

[alamoth]

After looking over the online metagame I made some slight adjustments including switching out Heartbeat for Tooth and Nail, and adding Affinity to the list so we have 11 decks to test against. All decklists have been posted.