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Post by conelead on Feb 23, 2007 23:33:25 GMT -5
Red Deck Wins...and Wins...and Wins.
3x Magus of the Scroll
4x Blood Knight
4x Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
4x Giant Solifuge
4x Phyrexian Ironfoot (could be Wildfire Emissary)
4x Rift Bolt
4x Sudden Shock
4x Seal of Fire
4x Char
4x Volcanic Hammer
12x Snow-Covered Mountain
1x Snow-Covered Forest
4x Scrying Sheets
4x Terramorphic Expanse
Sideboard:
4x Krosan Grip
4x Cryoclasm
4x Skred
3x Ancient Grudge
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Post by seeker on Feb 25, 2007 14:22:38 GMT -5
Convince me that not having the demonfire endgame is right.
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Post by Space_Stormy on Feb 26, 2007 16:37:32 GMT -5
Convince me that not having the demonfire endgame is right. I agree. The Sudden Shocks are useless. What do you kill nowdays? The only thing it would be useful is on morphs, and they dodge that easily. -4 SS +4 Demonfires. You have the Snow engine to make them huge, so go for it! |
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Post by conelead on Feb 26, 2007 23:34:21 GMT -5
Demonfire is not that great in this deck. It requires me to tap out. Granted, Sudden Shock is sub par too. It really is a place-holder until the real spell for that slot rotates in: Incinerate.
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Post by alamoth on Feb 27, 2007 14:29:13 GMT -5
I agree, Sudden Shock has to go. I'm also not very fond of Jaya Ballard as a 4-of. I suppose you could discard her to herself if necessary though. I would also run Mouth of Ronom, at least two. It's non-red direct damage which is good against Soltari Priest, etc.
My suggestions for replacements are Rough/Tumble, Blood Moon, and maybe Pyrohemia or Skirk Shaman.
I also wouldn't rule out running 1 Fungal Reaches, and 1 or 2 Demonfire. The card is nuts.
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Post by conelead on Feb 27, 2007 14:42:43 GMT -5
I already said SS is a place-holder for Incinerate. Demonfire may be a 1x at best. It would be fine if I see it, fine if I don't. Double Demonfire hands are CRAP with this deck. Mouth runs into the same issue as Demonfire, being expensive. Plus, there are enough colorless lands as is. Maybe as a 1-2x in the mana base. Blood Moon is a metagame thing, but the deck really wants more burn. Pyrohemia will die more than you think, and Skirk Shaman simply isn't an efficient enough beater. Rough/Tumble in a deck where it will kill every one of your creatures? I think not.
I really can't think of a burn spell better than Incinerate to take that spot. Sudden Shock is just a place-holder until that card rotates in.
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Post by Space_Stormy on Feb 28, 2007 3:36:09 GMT -5
I already said SS is a place-holder for Incinerate. Demonfire may be a 1x at best. It would be fine if I see it, fine if I don't. Double Demonfire hands are CRAP with this deck. Mouth runs into the same issue as Demonfire, being expensive. Plus, there are enough colorless lands as is. Maybe as a 1-2x in the mana base. Blood Moon is a metagame thing, but the deck really wants more burn. Pyrohemia will die more than you think, and Skirk Shaman simply isn't an efficient enough beater. Rough/Tumble in a deck where it will kill every one of your creatures? I think not. I really can't think of a burn spell better than Incinerate to take that spot. Sudden Shock is just a place-holder until that card rotates in. Yeah, and when it does, you lose Char and Soltifuge. Also, you know that you can cast demonfire before you are hellbent, right? |
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Post by seeker on Mar 1, 2007 21:59:05 GMT -5
To be fair, he has two or three months with Incinerate and Char together.
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Post by Space_Stormy on Mar 3, 2007 23:15:56 GMT -5
To be fair, he has two or three months with Incinerate and Char together. That's still no excuse to play an inferior spell. |
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Post by conelead on Mar 5, 2007 14:18:18 GMT -5
Revised List:
4x Magus of the Scroll
4x Blood Knight
4x Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
4x Giant Solifuge
4x Wildfire Emissary
4x Rift Bolt
4x Seal of Fire
4x Char
4x Volcanic Hammer
2x Demonfire
12x Snow-Covered Mountain
1x Snow-Covered Forest
4x Scrying Sheets
4x Terramorphic Expanse
1x Mouth of Ronom
Sideboard:
4x Krosan Grip
4x Cryoclasm
4x Skred
3x Ancient Grudge
Debating:
Removal of most, if not all the snow engine for Stomping Grounds and Kird Ape. The reason I am testing this is because it will be viable when the most important tournaments roll around (Regionals and Nationals). I may only have 3 months with Char and Incinerate, but those 3 months include Regionals and Nationals, and that is very important.
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